Saturday, July 31, 2010

[android-developers] How to solve this problem: Close Force Error when trying to populate viewStub

Hi there,

I just ran into a problem, while trying to populate a ViewStub by
tapping an ImageButton within a SlidingDrawer (the ViewStub should
also be part of the drawer), but all I get is a Force Close Error due
to a Null Pointer Exception. As I am using ViewStubs for the first
time I am not sure, what may have caused the exception. If someone
could help me out with this issue, this would be fantastic.

Thank you in advance.

This is the code I use to inflate the ViewStub:

btnExposure.setOnClickListener(new OnClickListener()
{
@Override
public void onClick(View v) {
importStub = ((ViewStub)
findViewById(R.id.stub_exposure)).inflate();

}
});
This is part of the Sliding Drawer xml file containing the ViewStub:

<ViewStub
android:id="@+id/stub_exposure"
android:inflatedId="@+id/exposureview"
android:layout_width="fill_parent"
android:layout_height="fill_parent"
android:background="#77000000">
</ViewStub>
This is the exposureview.xml (the inflatedID):

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<RelativeLayout xmlns:android="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/
android"
android:layout_width="fill_parent"
android:layout_height="fill_parent">
<SeekBar
android:layout_width="wrap_content"
android:layout_height="wrap_content"
android:thumb="@drawable/seek_thumb"
android:progress="50"
android:max="100">
</SeekBar>

</RelativeLayout>

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[id-android] Wta : donl0ad youtube

Pagi tman2,
Mau nanya dong, biasanya kalau donl0ad youtube menggunakan sware apa ya? Saya biasa pakai freedi dan youtub donloader ko skrg sudah ga bisa ya?
Apa karena ssesuai policy google jadi udah ga bisa lagi ya? Mohon petunjk. Makasi yaa

Regards
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Re: [id-android] WTS: samsung galaxy s versi us theme avatar cuman 5 jutaan new out of the boks buat unlock

Noh yg atas gambarnya
Sol

Pada tanggal 01/08/10, Krismanto Susilo <pandajayus@gmail.com> menulis:
> Yang seperti ini bukan Oom Dedi? Ada satu lagi samsung captivate dari at&t,
> bodynya menurut saya lebih OK.
>
> Regards,
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> From: Dedi Sopian <dedi.sopian@gmail.com>
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> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 06:26:53
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> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [id-android] WTS: samsung galaxy s versi us theme avatar cuman
> 5
> jutaan new out of the boks buat unlock
>
> Terima atas ralatnya, soalnya belum lit yg versi biasa.
> Sol
>
> 2010/8/1, Alex Chandra <a13x.ch4ndr4@csui02.net>:
>> Ralat, om dedi.. Fisiknya vibrant beda dgn versi international (bkn cuma
>> asia).. Yg vibrant ada 4 non-physical buttons.. Klo versi international
>> cuma
>> 3 buttons en yg tengah physical..
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2010 2:47 PM, "Dedi Sopian" <dedi.sopian@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Numpang jualan buat owner and mods
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>>> Fisik dan spek sama seperti versi Asia cuman ad logo tmobile di deket
>>> speaker Dan dusnya ad gambar avatarnya tapi bukan avatar eng si
>>> pengendali angin tapi avatar yang terkenal itu di bioskop hollywood
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Re: [id-android] WTS: samsung galaxy s versi us theme avatar cuman 5 jutaan new out of the boks buat unlock

Yang seperti ini bukan Oom Dedi? Ada satu lagi samsung captivate dari at&t, bodynya menurut saya lebih OK.

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Subject: Re: [id-android] WTS: samsung galaxy s versi us theme avatar cuman 5
jutaan new out of the boks buat unlock

Terima atas ralatnya, soalnya belum lit yg versi biasa.
Sol

2010/8/1, Alex Chandra <a13x.ch4ndr4@csui02.net>:
> Ralat, om dedi.. Fisiknya vibrant beda dgn versi international (bkn cuma
> asia).. Yg vibrant ada 4 non-physical buttons.. Klo versi international cuma
> 3 buttons en yg tengah physical..
>
> On Jul 31, 2010 2:47 PM, "Dedi Sopian" <dedi.sopian@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Numpang jualan buat owner and mods
>>
>> Fisik dan spek sama seperti versi Asia cuman ad logo tmobile di deket
>> speaker Dan dusnya ad gambar avatarnya tapi bukan avatar eng si
>> pengendali angin tapi avatar yang terkenal itu di bioskop hollywood
>> kemaren. :)'
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Re: WTA: Re: [id-android] wti : aplikasi u/monitor harga saham

iya, sory bos maksudnya nanya
gimana rr ada ngga aplikasi kaya gitu
kl ada aku mo beli nich hh android..minta infonya...

On Aug 1, 5:00 am, Enya Anggia <anggiadyar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmmm..
> Mungkin harusnya WTA (Want To Ask) kali yah om..
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:28 AM, dikis <dif...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > met pagi rr
> > salam kenal, sy newbie dan mulai tertarik dh hh android.
> > sy mo tanya untuk hh android sdh ada belum aplikasi yg bisa
> > memonitor harga saham indonesia (ihsg) secara real time.
> > mhn informasinya.thx
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Re: [id-android] WTS: samsung galaxy s versi us theme avatar cuman 5 jutaan new out of the boks buat unlock

Terima atas ralatnya, soalnya belum lit yg versi biasa.
Sol

2010/8/1, Alex Chandra <a13x.ch4ndr4@csui02.net>:
> Ralat, om dedi.. Fisiknya vibrant beda dgn versi international (bkn cuma
> asia).. Yg vibrant ada 4 non-physical buttons.. Klo versi international cuma
> 3 buttons en yg tengah physical..
>
> On Jul 31, 2010 2:47 PM, "Dedi Sopian" <dedi.sopian@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Numpang jualan buat owner and mods
>>
>> Fisik dan spek sama seperti versi Asia cuman ad logo tmobile di deket
>> speaker Dan dusnya ad gambar avatarnya tapi bukan avatar eng si
>> pengendali angin tapi avatar yang terkenal itu di bioskop hollywood
>> kemaren. :)'
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[android-developers] Re: How to cite/reference free images

thanks for the tips. As I told you its my first time publishing a app.
Can anyone please have a look at this image and let me know what I
must write in my about page.Is it ok? if I just provide this link in
my about section http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_important.svg
or I must specify any license information. I am using it when ever I
want to alert the user.

Thank you,
-vk


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> One possibility is to have an 'About' screen, reachable from your menu
> or from your settings/preferences activity. Put the references/
> citations in the About screen.
>
> On Jul 31, 3:39 pm, AUandroid <thevk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
>
> > I am about to release my first app on the market for free. How should
> > I reference or give citations to images I have used in my app. I have
> > used two images which are free images available athttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
>
> > thanks,
> > -vk

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Re: [id-android] [WTBerbagi]X10 mini + x10 minipro Rooted

Hajar aja bro...
Biar aplikasi yg need rooted dah bisa diinstall...

Imho..

-x10 «» -


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Thanks infonya om Gunggu,
Nubi, sekalian minta saran... tunggu nanti ke eclair dulu ato hajar aja?
Nyalinya lom mumpuni he he he

Ananias Eka
-sent from XMP 10

On Jul 31, 2010 2:58 PM, "gunggu" <gunggu@gmail.com> wrote:

Silahkan dicoba, ada yang mau mirdak nyobain x10mini dan x10 minipro
nya dioprek gak nih di Jogja?


Download: http://www.mediafire.com/file/73e29s1dwp3fdhu/exploid_x10mini.zip

- download and extract the archive...

You will need ADB from Android SDK and USB drivers for X10 mini (part
of Sony Ericsson PC Companion).
Enable USB debugging on the phone in Settings>Applications>Development
and connect the phone to PC via USB.
Add the Power management widget to your active widgets on the phone,
so you can quickly trun off and on the wi-fi function.
From the command line (on windows it's cmd.exe):
cd c:\exploid_x10mini (or another folder where you've extracted the
files from exploid_x10mini.zip)
adb push Superuser.apk /sdcard/Superuser.apk
adb push su /sdcard/su
adb push exploid /sqlite_stmt_journals/exploid
adb push busybox /sqlite_stmt_journals/busybox
adb shell
cd sqlite_stmt_journals
chmod 755 exploid
chmod 755 busybox
Immediately after the next command, you will need to disable and
enable the wi-fi using the power widget on the phone:
./exploid
then run:
rootshell
enter password rootnow
prompt will change to # - now we have root
./busybox cp /sdcard/Superuser.apk /system/app/
./busybox cp /sdcard/su /system/bin/
./busybox cp busybox /system/bin/
chmod 4755 /system/bin/su
rm /system/bin/rootshell
exit - out of rootshell
exit - out of adb shell

Sumber:
http://android.doshaska.net/x10miniroot

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Re: [id-android] Re: Referensi Android

Teman2..untk se X10,bisa ga di rooting jd froyo 2.2.sbenarnya kualitas X10 itu sendiri bgmn?dbandingkan dgn yg laen.tq

On Jul 31, 2010 2:26 AM, "Ramdanih" <danih.seven@gmail.com> wrote:

yoi, sepkat negh.. liquid e.. :D


On 30 Jul, 19:56, dantez <blepe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Acer Liquid E??
>
> On Jul 30, 9:17 am, mama...

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[id-android] Re: Motorola Droid

Droid itu dipegang oleh operator Verizon di Amerika.
Jadi yang di Indonesia ngak resmi dan tidak ada after salesnya.

Aku beli yang bekas, baterainya jelek banget.
Udah dibikin airplane mode, internet dan wifi di matiin, brightness
minimal, terus dipake buat baca walkthrough NDS selama di kereta api
cuma bertahan sampai tengah hari. Untung bisa ngecharge di KA-nya.

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[android-developers] Re: Using a new generated Keystone for existing app. Any possible outcomes?

Oops never mind :( You can't do that...

http://developer.android.com/guide/publishing/app-signing.html

"Application upgrade – As you release updates to your application, you
will want to continue to sign the updates with the same certificate or
set of certificates, if you want users to upgrade seamlessly to the
new version. When the system is installing an update to an
application, it compares the certificate(s) in the new version with
those in the existing version. If the certificates match exactly,
including both the certificate data and order, then the system allows
the update. If you sign the new version without using matching
certificates, you will also need to assign a different package name to
the application — in this case, the user installs the new version as a
completely new application."


On Jul 31, 6:26 pm, Moto <medicalsou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> keystone = keystore :P
>
> On Jul 31, 6:24 pm, Moto <medicalsou...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Hi,
>
> > I currently have my application signed using a keystone key I
> > generated.  Could I use a new keystone to sign my application for the
> > next update?
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> > Any issues that could arise if I use a different keystone?
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> > Thanks!
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[android-developers] Re: Text blinking effect TextView

Try posting a series of delayed messages or runnables to a handler
that alter the TextView in sequence as you need.

On Jul 29, 9:21 am, Huynh Ngoc Vu Nguyen <vunguye...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please let me know! How to make text blinking effect in TextView?
> I am using Android SDK 2.2.

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[android-developers] Re: Using a new generated Keystone for existing app. Any possible outcomes?

keystone = keystore :P

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> Hi,
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> I currently have my application signed using a keystone key I
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> next update?
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> Any issues that could arise if I use a different keystone?
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> Thanks!
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[android-developers] Using a new generated Keystone for existing app. Any possible outcomes?

Hi,

I currently have my application signed using a keystone key I
generated. Could I use a new keystone to sign my application for the
next update?

Any issues that could arise if I use a different keystone?

Thanks!
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[android-developers] Re: How to cite/reference free images

One possibility is to have an 'About' screen, reachable from your menu
or from your settings/preferences activity. Put the references/
citations in the About screen.

On Jul 31, 3:39 pm, AUandroid <thevk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am about to release my first app on the market for free. How should
> I reference or give citations to images I have used in my app. I have
> used two images which are free images available athttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
>
> thanks,
> -vk

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[android-developers] Re: LVL, ServerManagedPolicy...

How can we use ServerManagedPolicy in the emulator and fastly switch
from licensed to unlicensed to something else?

The first time I got the licensed message, than I'll continue to get
the licensed
message also if I set UNLICENSED from my developer console after I
deleted and reinstalled the app on the emulator.

Thanks.

On Jul 31, 4:23 pm, sblantipodi <perini.dav...@dpsoftware.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm using the ServerManagedPolicy implementation from the LVL code
> sample (MainActivity.class) but I haven't understood how it manage
> cache.
>
> The first time application start it needs internet to validate the
> license, if it is validated, how much time should pass before a second
> check is needed?
>
> Thanks.

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[android-developers] Re: Android preprocessor, //#ifdef...

I'm glad to not have to use pre-processors and hash-defines.
I hated them when i worked in C (and C++) (they tended to get over-
used, made code unreadable and difficult to debug) and for the last
decade of Java programming i really never ever needed them.

"How can you develop on a mobile without preprocessing?"
Easily, no problem.

On Jul 31, 4:00 pm, sblantipodi <perini.dav...@dpsoftware.org> wrote:
> ah ah... it's incredible...
> I develop on Windows Mobile, JavaME, Bada, Blackberry, Symbian.
> I can use preprocessing on every platform...
> How can you develop on a mobile without preprocessing? Sure android is
> really good for fart app,
> but what else?
>
> I don't want to troll but I really can't understand why I heard many
> developers saying "viva android" when
> google released the first buggy SDK.
>
> On Jul 31, 8:22 pm, TreKing <treking...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:25 AM, sblantipodi
> > <perini.dav...@dpsoftware.org>wrote:
>
> > > is there some sort of preprocessing in eclipse using android?
>
> > No.
>
> > > I haven't understood if this is a lack of netbeans or it is a lack of
> > > android.
>
> > It's a lack of Java. Preprocessing, specifically the #ifndef notation you
> > mention, is a C/C++ thing.
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­----------------------
> > TreKing <http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking> - Chicago
> > transit tracking app for Android-powered devices- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: [id-android] Salam Kenal + WTA android phone with best multimedia feature


om ichan, kalo compare dengan SGS untuk multimedianya bagusan mana?

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X10 suara multimedia acungin jempol

Kalau desire blum pernah coba

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Kalo memang kebutuhannya kesana dan gak masalah dengan os yang masih 1.6, antara desire vs x10 ya pilih x10 aja,kamera mantap,dan kualitas suara(audio) jauh meninggalkan desire kalo buat saya.

On 31 Jul 2010 17:38, "Lutfi Hidayat Ramdhani" <lutfi.hidayat.ramdhani@gmail.com> wrote:

jelas X10 bro klo mulmed
it's Sony :)
tapi ya puas2in aja di donut hehe

2010/7/31 Rangga Herdi <rangga.herdi@gmail.com>


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> Salam kenal, saya newbie disini. Sekarang sedang ngidam android HH dan
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[android-developers] Re: Android preprocessor, //#ifdef...

I'm sorry for my rude and really not too much kind speaking,
but I can't belive that android doesn't support preprocessor.

I can't think on mobile programming without preprocessor, too many
different configurations,
think only to LVL and android market and preprocessor could be
useful...
Ok we can live without it, but codes becomes really unelegant...
Sincerely I really don't like the non preprocessor way but
unfortunantly,
masses told that android is good and I need to develop on it :)

On Jul 31, 10:58 pm, TreKing <treking...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 3:00 PM, sblantipodi
> <perini.dav...@dpsoftware.org>wrote:
>
> > How can you develop on a mobile without preprocessing?
>
> Quite easily, actually.
>
> > Sure android is really good for fart app, but what else?
>
> Is this is a serious question? Have you browsed through the Android Market
> (as painful as that is)? There's a lot more out there than "fart apps".
>
> > I don't want to troll but I really can't understand why I heard
> > many developers saying "viva android" when google released the first buggy
> > SDK.
>
> Probably simply because it's an alternative to iPhone.
>
> Now, someone with your experience developing for so many devices can surely
> adapt to not having a preprocessor. It's good for many things but definitely
> not a necessity and will certainly not cripple you when making an Android
> App.
>
> If you're personally that attached to having a preprocessor, no one is
> forcing you to develop on Android.
>
> Good luck.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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WTA: Re: [id-android] wti : aplikasi u/monitor harga saham

Hmmm..
Mungkin harusnya WTA (Want To Ask) kali yah om.. 

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:28 AM, dikis <dif023@gmail.com> wrote:
met pagi rr
salam kenal, sy newbie dan mulai tertarik dh hh android.
sy mo tanya untuk hh android sdh ada belum aplikasi yg bisa
memonitor harga saham indonesia (ihsg) secara real time.
mhn informasinya.thx

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[android-developers] Re: LVL NOT_MARKET_MANAGED

I've done some testing on this, myself, and it seems that it only
returns the NOT_MARKET_MANAGED error for an app in the market if the
version code (the integer form of the version number in the manifest)
in the copy making the check is higher than the one currently in the
market. If the version code in the copy of the app making the check
is less than or equal to the current one in the market, then the
normal license valid/invalid response is given unless there's another
error.

That seems acceptable to me, even if it is a bit odd considering the
docs imply that it indicates only a package name mismatch.

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[android-developers] Re: Android Market Licensing: Now Available!

Speaking as someone who has traveled this road before with my own
implementation of basically the same approach, obfuscation will be
critical. With AAL, it took about three days for someone to crack the
app. The process looks something like this: decompile the apk using
a freely available open source tool, find the code that invokes the
licensing check, skip it, recompile and repackage the apk.
Obsfucation will make this more difficult, but not all that tough
given the usage of intents for communication between LVL and the
market tool.

Don't get me wrong, I think that LVL will offer a much needed road
bump for pirates -- stealing apps will actually require a crack of
each app. This is a viable approach to license verification and
that's why I took the same route with AAL months ago. It certainly
seems like google could have gone further though.

The coverage of this has been very extensive in the press, and I would
guess the coverage of the first released crack within a week or two
will also make a fairly big splash, which won't look great for the
platform.

All told though, I think LVL is a positive step for the platform.
Speaking as someone that was seeing 90%+ piracy rates before
implementing something very similar to LVL in my own apps, I'm happy
to see google addressing the problem.

Dave Keyes


On Jul 27, 5:44 pm, sblantipodi <perini.dav...@dpsoftware.org> wrote:
> I haven't understood if using this library external obfuscation
> (proguard for example) is needed
> for security reason or if we can avoid using external obfuscator, it's
> quite a pain using proguard in netbeans plus android sdk.
>
> On Jul 27, 10:24 pm, Sebastian Rodriguez <srodrig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I agree with Anton Persson. When will Google realize that opening the paid
> > market to all the other countries is crucial for the market environment :(
> > We don't have access to them here in Singapore either.
>
> > But this is a major step already, let's hope for even better!
>
> > Seb
>
> > On 28 July 2010 04:19, Kaj Bjurman <kaj.bjur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I saw that entry, and have a question.
>
> > > What will happen if the user doesn't have network connectivity? Many
> > > users turn of data traffic when they travel to other countries, but
> > > the probably still want to use the licensed applications.
>
> > > On 27 Juli, 19:55, Trevor Johns <trevorjo...@google.com> wrote:
> > > > Android fans,
> > > > For those of you who haven't already heard through our blog, we've
> > > > just launched the Android Market licensing service:
>
> > > >http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/07/licensing-service-for-...
>
> > > > From the above blog post:
>
> > > > "This simple and free service provides a secure mechanism to manage
> > > > access to all Android Market paid applications targeting Android 1.5
> > > > or higher. At run time, with the inclusion of a set of libraries
> > > > provided by us, your application can query the Android Market
> > > > licensing server to determine the license status of your users. It
> > > > returns information on whether your users are authorized to use the
> > > > app based on stored sales records."
>
> > > > Developer documentation is available here:
>
> > > >http://developer.android.com/guide/publishing/licensing.html
>
> > > > Happy coding!
>
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Android preprocessor, //#ifdef...

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 3:00 PM, sblantipodi <perini.davide@dpsoftware.org> wrote:
How can you develop on a mobile without preprocessing?

Quite easily, actually.
 
Sure android is really good for fart app, but what else?

Is this is a serious question? Have you browsed through the Android Market (as painful as that is)? There's a lot more out there than "fart apps".
 
I don't want to troll but I really can't understand why I heard many developers saying "viva android" when google released the first buggy SDK.

Probably simply because it's an alternative to iPhone.


Now, someone with your experience developing for so many devices can surely adapt to not having a preprocessor. It's good for many things but definitely not a necessity and will certainly not cripple you when making an Android App.

If you're personally that attached to having a preprocessor, no one is forcing you to develop on Android.

Good luck.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

I think the user is not always the problem and if it is... we've got a problem because we can hardly make people change their behave, what we can do is build better apps that don't take resources they don't need. That's a developers fault and that's the one developers should focus.

If we keep thinking users are idiots instead of giving them better apps and better phones so the realized thinks are evolving we'll see how users go to other products.

That's why (some) people root their phones and install some not official ROMs, cause vendors  what to sell better/newer phones even if the old ones could be (sometimes) upgraded.

I think "auto terminate" functions are only as good as the worst app installed on your phone.

(I hope my message could be read, my English is far from perfect)
 
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 7:38 PM, a <andjarnic@gmail.com> wrote:
While I agree with most of the replies, there is one issue that makes task killers useful. Some apps run background tasks or they don't properly terminate threads when they should. These apps will drain ur battery and for this reason alone I use them.

gcstang <gcstang@gmail.com> wrote:

>If it wasn't for a task killer my phone wouldn't last a day ....mine
>as well be tethered to the wall.
>
>On Jul 31, 1:31 am, Dianne Hackborn <hack...@android.com> wrote:
>> You don't need task killers.  Some people like them, and who I am I to argue
>> with what people like? ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Mystique <joven.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > One question, not sure whether it is related.
>> > Since Android manage task and application automatically and terminate
>> > if necessary why do we need application like Advance Task Killer?
>> > Isn't it redundant? I understand why Android was design this way, to
>> > help speed up application and extra memory if not needed is just waste
>> > so I rather have my app ready in the background and let Android decide
>> > whether to close it.
>>
>> > Back to qns, why do we need ATK??? I have it install but I do not use
>> > it anymore and doesn't seems to make a different.
>>
>> > On Jul 31, 6:38 am, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Yeah this is exactly what I thought too. Just because non-technical
>> > > people download task killers from the market doesn't mean that task
>> > > killers are necessary. In my opinion it is way more likely that the
>> > > explanation is that people are just very bad at shifting their way of
>> > > thinking from paradigm to paradigm.
>>
>> > > And it also made me think of the windows tuner programs. I've noticed
>> > > a trend in the way people think these days. I call it the do-nothing
>> > > dilemma. We are incapable of doing nothing these days. What I mean is,
>> > > when we look at a problem we instantly act for the "solution". Because
>> > > we are so advanced these days that we are just used to things being
>> > > already solved somewhere by someone, somehow. I am only 30, but I
>> > > suspect that people living in the 1920s had more of a grin and bear it
>> > > mentality ("man up") when it came to problems and hardship.
>>
>> > > Now, whether it's a kid hurting him/herself on a swing and people
>> > > needing to "Do Something", banning swingsets from all playgrounds. Or
>> > > a cellphone chugging along while syncing contacts, people don't think
>> > > "huh, my cell phone is not as quick as I want it. Oh well I'll just
>> > > deal, it's still a great phone and I'm sure in the future we'll have
>> > > faster phones that don't slow down". They think "Wow, surely there
>> > > must be someone to blame for this and someone with the fix. Oh here
>> > > this task killer allows me to solve my problem". Soon they are
>> > > probably having more problems than they started, but they don't care
>> > > because now everytime they get disgruntled they can "do something"
>> > > about it. And nobody wants to admit that they are administrating
>> > > themselves placebos, so feeling like it *is* a valid solution is self
>> > > reinforcing.
>>
>> > > That was a bit long winded. But I agree with Kostya, I don' think
>> > > people downloading task killers from the marketplace show a deficiency
>> > > in the OS. Only a deficiency in the way people adapt to new things.
>>
>> > > Obviously the pre-bundled apps that can't be uninstalled are a huge
>> > > problem. task killers not really being a good solution there, the real
>> > > solution is root -> uninstall. Hopefully Google will be able to nudge
>> > > companies in the right direction. I doubt we'll ever be in a crapware
>> > > free world, but perhaps they can be convinced to make crapware
>> > > uninstallable.
>>
>> > > -E
>>
>> > > On Jul 30, 1:33 pm, Kostya Vasilyev <kmans...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Technical details aside, I think it's just human nature.
>>
>> > > > Some percentage of users just have a strong desire to have something
>> > > > "magical" that *supposedly* makes their device (Android phone or
>> > desktop
>> > > > OS) work much better.
>>
>> > > > Remember - there used to be all kinds of memory optimizers for Windows?
>> > > > Also registry cleaners, various "tweak" and "tune-up" utilities, etc.
>> > > > etc. etc. No-one is saying that Windows (or any other OS :) is perfect,
>> > > > but these apps promise much more than they actually do, and sometimes
>> > > > cause harm.
>>
>> > > > There is also a whole subculture of users who root and flash their
>> > > > phones - I am convinced most do it because it addresses some
>> > > > psychological need, more than anything else.
>>
>> > > > So personally, I am quite happy to see that Google is starting to limit
>> > > > what task killers can do. I believe interfering with the platform's
>> > core
>> > > > functionality is definitely a bad thing.
>>
>> > > > I have enough bugs in my code to have to deal with someone else's.
>>
>> > > > -- Kostya
>>
>> > > > 31.07.2010 0:08, Indicator Veritatis пишет:
>>
>> > > > > A good article. A little harsh on the OP, but even so, a good
>> > article.
>>
>> > > > > After all: given that that IS the design of Android, that
>> > Applications
>> > > > > should not quit, but leave termination up to the OS, the article
>> > makes
>> > > > > its case well, even elegantly.
>>
>> > > > > But I cannot help but notice: after Android did all that hard work of
>> > > > > designing the whole system to work that way, what does the market say
>> > > > > about it? The presence of so many "Task Managers" for Android seems
>> > to
>> > > > > imply that the Market does NOT agree with this paradigm.
>>
>> > > > > Nor would that conclusion really surprise me, since it is a basic
>> > > > > expectation, almost an instinct, even predating computers: if it
>> > > > > doesn't work, you want to hit Reset, or power-cycle the device, and
>> > > > > you expect that it will be in a known good state (note the
>> > terminology
>> > > > > reminiscent of s certain OS with its "last known good"). Exiting an
>> > > > > application is the software-analog of shutting the power off: you
>> > > > > expect that the next time you enter, you get a clean slate.
>>
>> > > > > True, WebOS doesn't work that way either, and Android's way is a new
>> > > > > trend. But I don't see the market approving this in WebOS either --
>> > > > > even if it does like it better than Palm's previous OS, Palm OS. For
>> > > > > Palm OS was ugly.
>>
>> > > > > Besides: despite all the claims otherwise ("just let the system do
>> > > > > it"), I _have_ come across circumstances when I really do want to
>> > just
>> > > > > exit everything to get the phone to behave again. Surely I am not
>> > > > > alone, which is why people download the Task Managers for Android.
>>
>> > > > > On Jul 30, 10:39 am, Mark Murphy<mmur...@commonsware.com>  wrote:
>>
>> > > > >> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:13 AM, RamaMohan<rama.mohan...@gmail.com>
>> >  wrote:
>>
>> > > > >>> HI all,
>> > > > >>> I s there any way to kill the entire application at once.Not using
>> > > > >>> with finish() or system.exit() ..all these two will kill the
>> > > > >>> activity ,but not the appication.
>> > > > >>> Is there any way to kill the entire application from any
>> > > > >>> activity .
>>
>> >http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2033914/quitting-an-application-is...
>>
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>>
>> > > > >> _Android Programming Tutorials_ Version 2.9 Available!
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Re: [id-android] Re: Wta menu sim tool kit di liquid

iya ada kok di telkomsel juga...

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 2:16 AM, dantez <blepetan@gmail.com> wrote:
otomatis ada kow langsung.... gw klo colok XL lgs namana Layanan Data

On Aug 1, 1:16 am, Kristian Kc <kristiani...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Para suhu, as subject, ada dimananya yah? Dah ubek2 ga nemu.
>
> Thx b4 atas pencerahannya.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Android preprocessor, //#ifdef...

Here is a long thread on the subject:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/1c9078176b172e1a/235bae6530ee7e74?show_docid=235bae6530ee7e74

There are Java projects that use various preprocessors. The lack of a
standard one is a problem. AFAIK Sun's WORA ideology ran against the
need for a preprocessor, although many developers think that mobile
platforms have taken a big bite out of WORA. Modern software
development methodologies, such as refactoring to patterns, tend to
use other approaches for making software flexible and reusable.

Personally, I'm glad Java does not have a preprocessor. It just seems
a much cleaner language that way, that is, I have never yet seen Java
code with ifdefs. But I can understand that it can be very useful
under certain circumstances.

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[id-android] Wta market suspended di Sudan?

Rekans,

Apa mungkin karena saya di Sudan makanya market ga bisa diakses?
Saya ga bisa akses market di hero.  Saya pikir masalah di rom, trus malem ini baru inget kalo bawa A5IT (archos android).  Cobain market kok ya sama aja.  Loading sebentar trus langsung loncat ke home screen.  Apps Google yg laen sih jalan lancar.

Saya berpikir begitu karena saya ga bisa install Google talk dan audio video di laptop.  "Service is not available for your country"

Wadoohhh

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[android-developers] Missing network functionality?

Can any version of Android support simultaneous connections on both a
mobile network (e.g. 3G) and a WiFi network? Here's the requirement:

I want to connect to a local Wifi network of sensors/devices that is
not connected to the Internet, and be able to transmit data to an
Internet-connected web server. Obviously quite easy to do on
virtually any platform in Java, but it seems that Android does not
allow multiple networks/radios to be active at a time.

Big flaw, IMO. Should be a configurable option to allow that.

With Froyo and mobile hot spot functionality, clearly it is
*technically* possible to do, but I don't want to be the Wifi "host",
but rather, a "connected client" to another Wifi network, and then do
web requests over the 3G network.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions/workarounds.

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[android-developers] Re: Android preprocessor, //#ifdef...

Ok but other java software/platform supports preprocessor on both
Eclipse/Netbeans/IntelliJ/JDE ecc. ecc...

On Jul 31, 10:15 pm, Kostya Vasilyev <kmans...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The absence of preprocessor has to do with Java, not Android.
>
> And tlhere is a lot of Java software out there...
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> 01.08.2010 0:00 пользователь "sblantipodi" <perini.dav...@dpsoftware.org>
> написал:
>
> ah ah... it's incredible...
> I develop on Windows Mobile, JavaME, Bada, Blackberry, Symbian.
> I can use preprocessing on every platform...
> How can you develop on a mobile without preprocessing? Sure android is
> really good for fart app,
> but what else?
>
> I don't want to troll but I really can't understand why I heard many
> developers saying "viva android" when
> google released the first buggy SDK.
>
> On Jul 31, 8:22 pm, TreKing <treking...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:25 AM, sblan...
> > <perini.dav...@dpsoftware.org>wrote:
>
> > > is there some sort of preprocessing in eclipse using android?
>
> > No.
>
> > > I haven't understo...
> > TreKing <http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking> - Chicago
> > transit tracking app for Android-powered devices
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Re: [id-android] Re: WTA - Lebih bagus mana yak? Legend or Wildfire?

Masih mahal ya Legend? Pasaran BNIB berapa ya Legend dan Nexus 2nd? Thanks.


Regards,
Frandy Wijaya
Sent from BlackBerry® 9550 Storm2

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Subject: [id-android] Re: WTA - Lebih bagus mana yak? Legend or Wildfire?

Jelas legend kemana2 amoled bahan alumuniun resolusi tinggi 320x480
klo wildfire masi tft, resolusi dibawah legend juga dibwh hero
240x320.

Cons nya legend yaitu mahal, mending ambil nexus 2nd or nyicil 6 bln
SGS

On Jul 31, 11:22 pm, "yopie suryadi" <yo...@anjroid.net> wrote:
> Mirip sekali bro isinya.
> Hampir ga bisa dibedain.
> Tapi secara budget harganya beda jauh.
> Jadi saya lebih pilih wildfire.
>
> @yopiesuryadiwww.prajna-enterprise.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
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> Subject: [id-android] WTA - Lebih bagus mana yak? Legend or Wildfire?
>
> Rekan-Rekan,
>
> Saya newbie disini, berencana mau nambah handset buat temani bb biar ngga sendirian karena so far bb sisi fun-nya kurang. As subject, yang mana ya lebih oke secara overall? Legend atau Wildfire? Plus kekurangan masing2. Thanks in advance..
>
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> Frandy Wijaya
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Android preprocessor, //#ifdef...

The absence of preprocessor has to do with Java, not Android.

And tlhere is a lot of Java software out there...

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01.08.2010 0:00 пользователь "sblantipodi" <perini.davide@dpsoftware.org> написал:

ah ah... it's incredible...
I develop on Windows Mobile, JavaME, Bada, Blackberry, Symbian.
I can use preprocessing on every platform...
How can you develop on a mobile without preprocessing? Sure android is
really good for fart app,
but what else?

I don't want to troll but I really can't understand why I heard many
developers saying "viva android" when
google released the first buggy SDK.


On Jul 31, 8:22 pm, TreKing <treking...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:25 AM, sblan...

> <perini.dav...@dpsoftware.org>wrote:

>
> > is there some sort of preprocessing in eclipse using android?
>
> No.
>
> > I haven't understo...

> TreKing <http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking> - Chicago

> transit tracking app for Android-powered devices

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Re: [id-android] Re: wti:miring droider surabaya.

akirnya sukses jg malam ini jadi froyo ... yeah ! ... 
aplikasi sukses hilang semua .. yeah ! ...

waktunya molor .. jam 3 pagi ... 

2010/8/1 handoyo <tulalhyt@gmail.com>
setuju ... kebetulan aja bro eric yg nyebut itu, bisa saja saya or temen2 lain yg sebut itu ... jadi kita semua jadi bisa lebih berhati2, demi kelancaran kita semua jg ... sip ? lets ngoprek lagi ...

barusan sukses update dr cyanogen 5.06 ke 5.0.8 .. ini lagi dl 6 rc2 ... bela2 in dah ga tidur .. besok megap2 di tempat kerja dah ...

2010/8/1 Alex Chandra <a13x.ch4ndr4@csui02.net>

Hmm, cuma mao meluruskan aj, konsekwensi nyebut nama asli pasar mal*m itu ga ada hubungan sama sekali dgn kelangsungan hidup pasar yg brsangkutan.. Lebih berpengaruh ke kelangsungan hidup milis kita tercinta ini.. Klo ad yg blon tau, milis ini udah diakui oleh google sbagai milisnya android di indonesia.. What would you think if an official mailing list is endorsing p*rat*d content? Tentunya ga bagus bkn? Makanya selama ini kita selalu menghindari penggunaan kata2 sensitif, minimal biar walopun tetap ada hal2 seperti ini jadi kurang terdeteksi oleh yang berwenang.. Kira2 bgitu alasannya.. Makanya gw kadang2 nyelip di thread yg banyak request japri2nya biar klo pada request jg lewat japri aja (supaya jangan kelihatan sebagai milis buat berbagi r*takan doank), ehh, tau2 gw malah ikut kbagian japrinya, wakakakk, padahal ga minta.. trpaksa lahh ikut install.. :))

Buat bro eric, santai aja, kita dsini smua selalu berusaha saling memperbaiki diri, ga ad yg smpurna.. We're a family here.. :) *sok bijak*

On Aug 1, 2010 1:46 AM, "ericww" <eric.wardaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> buat yang lain sori yah kalo ada yang tersinggung, yang jelas nggak
> ada maksud SAMA SEKALI nulis hal yang seperti bro Muh Fitrah bilang
> diatas :(
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[android-developers] Re: Android preprocessor, //#ifdef...

ah ah... it's incredible...
I develop on Windows Mobile, JavaME, Bada, Blackberry, Symbian.
I can use preprocessing on every platform...
How can you develop on a mobile without preprocessing? Sure android is
really good for fart app,
but what else?

I don't want to troll but I really can't understand why I heard many
developers saying "viva android" when
google released the first buggy SDK.

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> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:25 AM, sblantipodi
> <perini.dav...@dpsoftware.org>wrote:
>
> > is there some sort of preprocessing in eclipse using android?
>
> No.
>
> > I haven't understood if this is a lack of netbeans or it is a lack of
> > android.
>
> It's a lack of Java. Preprocessing, specifically the #ifndef notation you
> mention, is a C/C++ thing.
>
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Re: [android-developers] Adding headers to listview for cursor with grouped results

(( blush ))

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31.07.2010 23:34 пользователь "Connick" <oconnick@gmail.com> написал:

For anyone looking to dynamically add a header to a sorted cursor in a list, Kostya's suggestion worked brilliantly. In getView override check the column value you're sorting on of the previous cursor position to determine if you need to use a regular row or a view which contains both a header and a row layout.




On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Connick <oconnick@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I'm with you on that ......

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Re: [android-developers] Re: How to populate a ViewStub using different ImageButtons?

That sounds great, but I just read that a ViewSwitcher only works with two child views and I have at least 4 :((

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:20 PM, schwiz <schwiz@gmail.com> wrote:
viewswitcher is probably better for what you are wanting to do
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/ViewSwitcher.html
you can even assign animations for the views as they come and go if
you want.

On Jul 30, 3:51 pm, Victoria Busse <victoriasarabu...@gmail.com>
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> Hi there,
>
> I am trying to populate a ViewStub with a new view depending on which
> ImageButton is clicked, but as I just discovered ViewStubs I am not exactly
> sure how this would work...
>
> e.g. can I provide the ViewStub with different inflatedIds and within the
> onClick event of a Button inflate the ViewStub by calling a specific
> inflatedId???
>
> If someone could give me hand, that would be really great.
>
> Thank you very much in advance :o)

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Re: [id-android] Motorola Droid

perasaan kmrn ada yg jual lgsg 3 bh ? dari yg licin, mulus, lmyn ....

2010/8/1 tio.ping.™ <android@yes-mobile.net>

Cek gtalk SA.

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yes-mobile™
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From: Subanindiyo Ardi <subanindiyo.ardi@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:24:23 +0700
Subject: Re: [id-android] Motorola Droid

Ini yg email istrinya tio ping yah ?

*minggat*

On Jul 31, 2010 11:22 PM, "tio.ping.™" <android@yes-mobile.net> wrote:
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> Paging renner :)
>
> Sol.
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> Dear Frens,
>
> Mo nanya, kalau beli Motorola Droid dimana ya? Nyari2 yang onlen macem
> bhinneka dan glodokshop belum ada.
> Gimana dengan after sales supportnya?
> Trus apa bener ntar Motorola nggak akan update seri Eclair ini ke Froyo?
> Bagi yang udah pake, berapa jam waktu aktifnya, kalau pemakaian normal,
> nggak browsing terus-terusan, apakah charge tiap hari?
>
> Sorry banyak bener nanyanya.
>
> Makasih atas infonya ya.
>
> azwir
> (nubie on droid)
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