Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Re: [id-android] WTI: Nexus 4 Review

Dapat berapa om?

▒ Android 4.2.1 @ Google neXus4™ ▒

On Jan 22, 2013 11:59 PM, "handi mulyawan" <handi.mulyawan@gmail.com> wrote:
official bumper... susah juga spt hape -nya :)

baju baru lainnya, hehe.
*designed in San Fransisco, CA. Made in China :)



On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Yoshwar S <perangbintang@gmail.com> wrote:
Kata org Google bakal ada official bumper casenya.
Kyk bumper iPhone yg cuma melindungi sampingnya aja, jd sisi belakang tetap keliatan.

Salam,
Yoshwar


On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Peter J. <peteparker2k6@gmail.com> wrote:

Imbas pasang hardcase: body makin tebal dan keindahan tampilan glass (efek matrix nya) jd gak kelihatan
Tapi lebih terproteksi sih..... serba salah :)

by N7100 the Beast

On Nov 5, 2012 7:14 PM, "Amer" <moamer.khadafi@gmail.com> wrote:

Lagipula kalau memang niat dicari, gak ada product yg benar benar flawless. Yg gak terbantahkan kemarin adalah crack pada glass belakang pas jatuh. Then again, ada cara menghindari dengan pasang hard case.

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On Nov 5, 2012 6:34 PM, "Yoshwar S" <perangbintang@gmail.com> wrote:
udah banyak bantahannya kok oom. katanya artikel tsb mengada2.
salah satunya dari sini. tau deh mana yg bener :)

"Hi
I'm pretty sure LG knows what they are doing, and the article just doesn't make much sense.

Comments in the article about the Bolted in battery

This phone is not suppose to have an end user replaceable battery, so any criticism about the robustness of design relating to having to change the battery many times is just silly. The battery is lithium polymer and will last longer than other standard lithium types, and for most people the phone will be replaced long before they notice any reduction in battery capacity.

Spring antenna connections

This is a pretty standard way of doing things these days for antennas. The article comments about loss of tension and snapped plastic tabs, well the tabs may only get snapped if the battery is replaced by someone who isn't sure what they are doing, and I'll repeat what I said above, the phone isn't designed to have a user replaceable battery. As for the back warping, they've overlooked the fact that glued across the back is a sheet of glass, so any warping will crack the glass long before problems with signals are seen.

Lack of impact zones

I doubt any phone has impact zones built in, there simply isn't the room to waste space doing this, and lets face it, any drop bad enough to dislodge the internal components will have likely shattered the screen, especially given the trend for edge to edge glass. If any phone is dropped it either survives or breaks depending on how lucky or unlucky you are.

Tape used instead of structure and shielding

This doesn't make any sense at all. The phone doesn't require servicing and isn't design to be maintained by the end user so what does it matter what is used inside the phone? Tape is used all the time in devices, mostly it is simply used during manufacture to secure wires to aid construction.

As for tape on the battery, that tape has nothing to do with the battery, it is simply holding in place the co-ax antenna connection wire to ensure it doesn't float free and get trapped during assembly. The battery itself is held in place by adhesive tape underneath it and by the fact it is sandwiched in by the back cover.

Perhaps if this phone was designed by NASA to be used in a space mission where a replacement would be difficult to obtain, then yes we would expect all the components to be easily serviceable, but then it would be 5 times the size and 10 times the cost of this phone, and no one would want it!

The whole article is just silly. LG will have spent a shed load of money on R&D and testing, Google will have done the same as their name is attached to it, and then someone thinks they can tell LG how to do it better from looking at a few pictures?

Regards

Phil"


Salam,

Yoshwar



On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Alvin Kurniawan <alvin4forum@gmail.com> wrote:

wah baca ini kok jadi ragu" lagi. coba tunggu review" lainnya lagi deh

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On Nov 5, 2012 4:59 PM, "Apriyanto Wahyu Handoko" <jamupegellinu@gmail.com> wrote:
Nexus 4 Battery Shot Reveals Potential Quality Issues


Nexus 4 Battery Shot Reveals Potential Quality Issues
Several pictures of the LG-built Google Nexus 4 have been showing up across the Internet. The featured image in this article really caught my eye because it shows the internals of the device relatively well. While this device has not yet been released, a lot can be said (and judged) about a device's hardware, even without full board shots. Overall, it appears to show that LG's build quality is considerably lower than that of the Samsung Nexus devices in the past. In this article, I intend to write about the design pros and cons of the highly anticipated Nexus 4.

3oFPl-1024x680.jpg 
Design Pluses
Large external speaker - One of the biggest complaints with Samsung's designs is the low powered/small sized speaker. While it delivers a trade-off in battery life versus sound quality/quantity,  the Nexus 4′s larger speaker should suffice to produce adequate sound.
Good speaker placement - The speaker placement on the Nexus 4 places the speaker at the corner of the device rather than the center, where your palm blocks it in portrait mode. While the Galaxy Nexus forces you to hold the device in an odd position to bounce sound from your palm to your ear while in portrait mode, the Nexus 4 will not have this problem. The corner orientation places the speaker in a optimal position for both landscape and horizontal palm redirection while watching movies.   This same orientation can be seen on theMeizu MX.

Design Minuses
Bolted in battery - The defining line between "Operator Replaceable" and "Qualified Service Technician" is the use of tools. The Nexus 4 not only requires a screw driver, but the plastic tabs on the edges will break if removed improperly. Once those tabs are broken, signal quality will be lost from the connection with the Spring Antenna Connections.
Spring Antenna Connections - The problem with Spring Antenna Connections or simply Spring Connections in general is: When tension is lost, signal is lost. Loss of tension between the back plate and the board can occur when a tab breaks or the back plate is warped. Warping of back plates can occur easily, and is quite frequent as devices age from stress, dropping, impact, or even a day in a hot car. You may notice some old devices such as remote controls or phones will squeak and creek when you press on them. This noise is generally attributed to warping or breakage of tabs, which would be critical for the WiFi/NFC/data/GPS/Bluetooth connections on the Nexus 4.
Lack of impact zones - Many current devices including Samsung's entire lineup include impact areas around the bolts and the edge of the device.  This allows the device to sustain impact without altering the physical structure of the board, causing components to come lose.  The absence of impact areas causes a device to be more fragile and less resistant to impacts.  This also increases a device's warpage risk, which can alter device dimensions and cause the Spring Connections to fail.
Tape used instead of structure and shielding - A well designed device will use its own structure to hold components in place. Tape is a disposable part. Disposable parts have no place inside of a properly designed device. The disadvantage here is tape can take components off the board when removed. Tape is also messy, and leaves residue on a board and other components. There is never a situation when using tape instead of physical structure is required, and the use of tape is often a harbinger for other build quality problems.
Recommendations for next revision
Make the speaker grill bigger - A speaker grill is designed to keep the operator's fingers out, not to keep water out.  The small size of the speaker grill on the Nexus 4 will impede speaker sound and motion, and thus the overall dB level. This physical obsturction means the speaker wastes power on compression of air rather than audible sound creation.
Replace the battery tape - Instead of using tape for the battery, a slight overhang at the bottom of the metalized battery section will suffice to keep the battery from moving around inside the device.  Another way is to place glue or double-sided tape on the bottom of the battery.
Replace the communications tape - Instead of metalized tape on the communications section of the board, use a physical shield cap, which makes it serviceable and more tidy.
Use impact zones - Impact zones prolong device life.
Use a physical connector and a film substrate for the back cover - The back cover of the device consists of several separate connections spread across the entire device.  This means warpage anywhere in that area can cause the device to lose connectivity.   The primary focus of a mobile device is connectivity, and that should not be trusted to spring connections. The spring connections should be replaced with a physical connector of some sort. A physical connector would also save space.
Do not bolt down batteries - Batteries should be easily removable in the event of a problem.  Getting the rear cover off is enough work.  The compression method has been trusted across the spring connectors on the board, which are held in place solely by pressure. A proper connector holds itself in place. A slight bit of foam-rubber would do the same job as a spring, save space, save tools and remove the need for "tools" when replacing the battery.
Do not put the IMEI on the back cover – There will surely be aftermarket accessories for the device or people who want to replace the back cover, or add an extended battery.  The IMEI should be on the board, or at least bolted to the device.
At first glance, the Nexus 4′s hardware appears to be a quality downgrade from the Galaxy nexus which we reviewed previously.  After release we hope to be able to give a much better analysis.

Via: xda developers

2012/11/5 Andri Agassi <andriagassi@gmail.com>

Quotes jawaban Matias Duarte soal SD Card di Nexus, diambil dari page Google+ nya.

Why don't nexus devices have SD cards?

Everybody likes the idea of having an SD card, but in reality it's just confusing for users.

If you're saving photos, videos, or music, where does it go? Is it on your phone? Or on your card? Should there be a setting? Prompt every time? What happens to the experience when you swap out the card? It's just too complicated.

We take a different approach. Your Nexus has a fixed amount of space and your apps just seamlessly use it for you without you ever having to worry about files or volumes or any of that techy nonsense left over from the paleolithic era of computing.

With a Nexus you know exactly how much storage you get upfront and you can decide what's the right size for you. That's simple and good for users.

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On Nov 5, 2012 1:52 PM, "Amer" <moamer.khadafi@gmail.com> wrote:

Baca aja om alasan si Google bilang bakal bingung ada kok di mana tapi saya lupa.

Yg saya inget, misalnya saat install sesuatu nah pengguna 'bingung' apakah ter install di internal atau external. Contoh nyatanya pernah ada tret yg nanya gimana cara install apps game dan game data langsung ke external di Evo 3D cdma, nah saya bingung karena setahu saya semua otomatis ke external. Ternyata di gsm dan cdma perlakukannya beda.

Saya sempat baca juga, alasannya gak ada ext adalah terkait multi user yg mulai di support di tablet nexus. Tapi detailnya gimana sekali lg sorry ga inget. Monggo di googling.

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On Nov 5, 2012 1:39 PM, "Eko Prasetiyo" <ekoprasetiyo@gmail.com> wrote:

Pengguna mana yg bingung ya? Dr jmn symbian ato ponsel2 java udh pke sdcard & relatif aman kan? Skrg aj krn iphone ga pke sdcard tb2 muncul anggapan user akan bingung klo ad sdcard.

On Nov 5, 2012 12:28 PM, "Shinte Galeshka" <galeshka@gmail.com> wrote:
Setuju soal memory card ini. kemaren baca alesannya gak ada slot memory ini agar pengguna ga bingung, kalo aku bilang ya pasang aja slotnya, jadi pengguna punya pilihan mau dipake (dengan sedikit tambahan kebingungan) atau gak dipake (biar gak bingung) 

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On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Vanda <vandasco@gmail.com> wrote:

Masalah storage memang kontroversial untuk Nexus ini. 8Gb sih gak cukup banget, entah kenapa bikin versi 8Gb... Dodol nih. Harusnya minimal 16Gb lah. Jadi ada versi 16Gb dan 32Gb. Sdcard memang kadang perlu, apalagi buat yang suka gonta-ganti rom, buat backup2

On Nov 5, 2012 8:04 AM, "Nova Andriana" <nova.elba@gmail.com> wrote:
Nexus 4, setelah saya baca review dan liat di youtube, jadi ada keinginan utk mencoba nexu. Tp sayang memorynya kecil yah 8Gb dan 16Gb dan klo ga salah ga ada slot buat sd cardnya, sungguh sangat disayangkan. Tp sih mudah2an htc j butterfly bisa masuk indo....heheehehe...


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