Friday, July 30, 2010

Re: [android-developers] Re: Correct way to kill the application

Technical details aside, I think it's just human nature.

Some percentage of users just have a strong desire to have something
"magical" that *supposedly* makes their device (Android phone or desktop
OS) work much better.

Remember - there used to be all kinds of memory optimizers for Windows?
Also registry cleaners, various "tweak" and "tune-up" utilities, etc.
etc. etc. No-one is saying that Windows (or any other OS :) is perfect,
but these apps promise much more than they actually do, and sometimes
cause harm.

There is also a whole subculture of users who root and flash their
phones - I am convinced most do it because it addresses some
psychological need, more than anything else.

So personally, I am quite happy to see that Google is starting to limit
what task killers can do. I believe interfering with the platform's core
functionality is definitely a bad thing.

I have enough bugs in my code to have to deal with someone else's.

-- Kostya

31.07.2010 0:08, Indicator Veritatis пишет:
> A good article. A little harsh on the OP, but even so, a good article.
> After all: given that that IS the design of Android, that Applications
> should not quit, but leave termination up to the OS, the article makes
> its case well, even elegantly.
> But I cannot help but notice: after Android did all that hard work of
> designing the whole system to work that way, what does the market say
> about it? The presence of so many "Task Managers" for Android seems to
> imply that the Market does NOT agree with this paradigm.
> Nor would that conclusion really surprise me, since it is a basic
> expectation, almost an instinct, even predating computers: if it
> doesn't work, you want to hit Reset, or power-cycle the device, and
> you expect that it will be in a known good state (note the terminology
> reminiscent of s certain OS with its "last known good"). Exiting an
> application is the software-analog of shutting the power off: you
> expect that the next time you enter, you get a clean slate.
> True, WebOS doesn't work that way either, and Android's way is a new
> trend. But I don't see the market approving this in WebOS either --
> even if it does like it better than Palm's previous OS, Palm OS. For
> Palm OS was ugly.
> Besides: despite all the claims otherwise ("just let the system do
> it"), I _have_ come across circumstances when I really do want to just
> exit everything to get the phone to behave again. Surely I am not
> alone, which is why people download the Task Managers for Android.
> On Jul 30, 10:39 am, Mark Murphy<> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:13 AM, RamaMohan<> wrote:
>>> HI all,
>>> I s there any way to kill the entire application at once.Not using
>>> with finish() or system.exit() ..all these two will kill the
>>> activity ,but not the appication.
>>> Is there any way to kill the entire application from any
>>> activity .
>> --
>> Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)||
>> _Android Programming Tutorials_ Version 2.9 Available!

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